The newly-confirmed couple was seen leaving the Caribbean island of St. Barts together after several days soaking up the sun. The ruling of his stake on this matter may indicate otherwise. Yes, he said almost. For a man constantly texting, he can cease communicating for days on end at the drop of a hat, then resurface as if nothing's happened, leaving some frustrated friends to ponder what they see as a lack of stability. Why not? Oct. 18, 2018 - Michael Rush's presentation at Mountain America Expo Center in Sandy, UT re: the return of the lost 10 tribes of Israel. The concept of personal revelation has been a source of strength and tension since the beginning of the Church. I sort of get what you are saying, but to say it you seem to strawman the actual church position (as I understand it to be). It was just the two of us. I can see the bind that the church is in here and I am actually somewhat sympathetic to its position, but of course, its a case where the church has done this to itself. We have heard only a few of Mikes podcasts encouraging personal revelation. This is youre basic McCarthyist style, witch accusing, intimidation tactic that is used to try and gain total control over perception and the situation. But I agree with you general point that if we want to establish Zion we need to shrug off the standard mortal way of looking at things. And as the author rightly conceded he never actually used the term astral projection. Dont be afraid. Despite Satan's deceitful prophecy to the wicked that if they create a vaccine it will save them from the pandemic, they will in truth succumb to the plague and it will be like a plague of their own making (i.e. But without love you wont probably care, and if you care, it is because of love. If the answer is to try to retain Millennials and Gen Z, then I say no way. | Jan 1, 2002. It was inappropriate for me to teach that temple ordinances, specifically the use of altars, should be practiced outside of the temple. No one in the church called them to write up that online doc. Yea, keep His law with all thy might Separation is another illusion brought about by the fall. Jehovahs plan included to take the risk and seek good-weird which may entail some bad weird. Recent Arrests. What am I going to do about it? Why? You devote a lot of time and are very thorough in your work. Merlin Olsen, NFL star turned TV star [58] Mark Schultz (wrestler), Gold medal winning wrestler. While the church doesn't regularly provide information about excommunication or resignation, those listed here have made such information public. Whats with that? Here we have the author making another conclusion that leaves you wondering where in the world it came from. I also have a husband that is very nervous that I listen to podcasts by people who are on the extreme edge. If were not supposed to strive for these things, then what are the stories for? This Podcast is based off the book - A Remnant Shall Return written by Michael Rush. No, although I feel sure. Brother Sky, I agree its a very fine line. That flow from fountains pure. MICHAEL B FITZGERALD. If the answer is because moderating a position on something is more compatible with what the Savior taught, then absolutely I agree. If he is going around teaching those things like they are doctrine, and not as personal insights, then I can see where the church would take issue. Well there be many reasons; the main one probably being that while anyone with a spirit of prophecy is by definition an prophet, there can be only one that is The Prophet, since otherwise esteeming each other as prophets would result, or opens the door to mischief. The Gospel topics essays are a mixed bag. I do not seek GIFTS. Refusing to accept a gift might be what you meant, and yes, that would be rude and there might be no more offer of gift. I really enjoyed the first piece you did on Stroud. Moroni 7 :35-37 It is the doctrine that converts. Upon concluding his mission, Michael attended and graduated from Brigham Young University with a degree in accounting and information systems. I'm really NOT seeing a connection to anything he is saying with those scriptures at all. Thank you for this update on Mike Stroud. . I dont know why a person would think otherwise. The enemy of God is cunning and can put words or thoughts in your mind that, being nearly correct, discourage further study on that topic because you think youve gotten it straight from God. 901 DEWEY STREET TALLAHASSEE, FL 32304. Theres that little humor again I know.. Theres a lot more that can be said about this but basically speaking if a person is just meditating and especially if theyre meditation on Christ, its not going to happen. I am wondering if I could get your comment, (off record of course) re a member named James T. Prout. There was also no reason to test the spirits as the author accuses. The podcast that I finally had to do research on and finally just Googled his name was the one on Familiar Spirits. Ill have to look into it. Enter your email address to follow this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. Several people put together an open letter (a Google doc) citing new questionable teachings from his conference address onward. As far as the gospel is concerned, were not supposed to be afraid of anything including deception. Also known as Micheal Rush. by h_p August 20th, 2021, 10:24 am, Post Kimberly, I hope Im never in the same ward as you. There are a number of other attempts to emphasize certain doctrines that are more conservative than not. Summary: Michael Rush is 46 years old and was born on 07/29/1974. Of course he should just as the Savior taught. I respect that he brought this to light. The job of church leaders is to try to lead the Church by the Spirit. At the same time I think you are very accurate in noticing some of the biggest flaws of those who apostatize on the right. In my experience it seems the overarching need/message is one of moral superiority and a need to achieve or get a manifestation of some sort that ultimately seems to serve to prove ones elect-ness as if that were the purpose of life. Caring and love. As you kneel down in prayer before reading the book, ask the Lord to send these men and these women to you to teach, instruct, give greater understanding, and even visions and manifestations to you (Podcast 023: 1 Nephi 22, abt 4:14) Ive seen one critic use the word conjuring to describe what Brother Stroud recommended. Watch any religion that does not offer this connection fade into oblivion before your very eyes. Robert Alan Goldberg, L. Jackson Newell, Linda King Newell. when we lie down to sleep, our minds are often as bright and active as the mind of an angel, at least they are as active as when our bodies are awake. We have information on 910-692-9945, including Michael B Rush's name, address, and background checks with criminal records. The whole thing is very good, but if you're in a hurry scroll over to 22 minutes. Mike Stroud may have bore testimony of the church and the Brethren in one breath but in the next he bore testimony of the fact that their job is only one of a preparatory role. The follow are some but not all the subjects that were brought up in the doc. It is simultaneously hilarious and tragic that an institution who makes such extraordinary (some would say literally unbelievable) claims about personal revelations, heavenly visitations, etc. There is no indication that translations into other languages will continue. I dont know but apparently some confusion and many paths to many trees of life. By Michael Rush Mike and Bryce explain why understanding the truth is so vitally important. The purpose of the stories, in my opinion of course, is to show these men doing a duty which in many cases cost them their lives. [1] There were a few other moments in the podcasts where I cringed, but I doubt they wouldve played into any discipline. Christ visiting hundreds and thousands of people at the same time at the temple in Bountiful with rings of fire around the children andgranting translation to the 3 Nephites. But not everyone like her. If Im not mistaken one of only 2 prayers from His mouth recorded in the Bible. (But the few Spanish and Portuguese podcasts are still up, so who knows.). Obey the eternal Lord and Savior of all the world? Bellamy, who have extraordinary experiences with God.. And yet the excommunications continue. He inspired me to read the apocrypha of Esdras and I think the eagle prophecy is about the USA and is right on track. would then regulate such claims. Its mostly just a lot of fluff with not much meat to satisfy the arguments. [This is the most likely reason I can see, which is why I noted that hed previously been corrected on inappropriate doctrines and highlighted questionable teachings in his newer podcasts.] Perhaps the authors research on this topic was poor, but this quote has come up on social media a number of times and Im a bit surprised the author has not seen it. My guess is that he proceeded in direct opposition to some counsel he was given and agreed to, because while his doctrine sounds extreme and off the path of truth, I dont think the church is in the business of excommunicating people for faulty but genuinely held beliefs. I know this guy and many others like him .The bulk have been excommunicated because they testify to the very thing that our present Special Witnesses refuse to do, that is having the promise of D and C93:1 fulfilled in this life. It should also be noted that opposition quickly mobilized when Stroud began his podcasts last November. I say this because in my long life Ive heard a few claim Pres. [I have seen no evidence that Mike Stroud has done this he has bent over backwards to indicate his public support of church leaders, both general and local.] They were and they did. by Maroriginal1 August 23rd, 2021, 1:27 pm. This principle is explained here: Alma 12:9 And now Alma began to expound these things unto him, saying: It is given unto many to know the mysteries of God; nevertheless they are laid under a strict command that they shall not impart only according to the portion of his word which he doth grant unto the children of men, according to the heed and diligence which they give unto him. [Nope. Im not sure that garment changes fit a philosophy one way or another. He mentioned a shift in tone and messaging from church leaders since Russell M. Nelson became president of the Church. Instead they would take joy in the blessing of others and take equal joy in the blessing that God has given themselves. I think his cognitive dissonance is almost to a breaking point. But its my understanding that he is appealing their ruling so well see how that goes. I really don't like his book Revelation. Have they approached the tree of life? I think youre right that the contact is more common but we have to not be afraid of it. I love the gospel of Jesus Christ, His atoning sacrifice. Astral projection is basically when someones spirit consciously leaves their body and then returns. All people are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. This is not an official site of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. If suggesting asking for Nephi et al to come visit, so-to-speak, is a bit peculiar, (and I grant that it is) Ive come to think, well, who am I to say Nephi is too busy? If you seek professional advice, please see a licensed professional with your respective government. Love God, Love yourself and Love each other. I really like A Remnant Shall Return (which covers Ezra's Eagle) and Daniel 11. In his initial announcement, he stated that the Lord wanted the podcasts translated into Spanish. They frequently inject their personal causes into any discussion whether it applies to the topic or not. Yet, they are ignored, as, apparently, are the canonized scriptures such as the Bible, BOM, and D&C. Preparing for the Second Coming - Pres. Retrieved 7 June 2015. We have Anti-Nephi-Lehis laying down their lives by the thousands, and the miraculous conversions attributed to Alma and the sons of Mosiah; Prison walls fall to the ground around Alma and Amaleki, then, following the demonstration of the pillar of fire, around Nephi and Lehi. They used fear all throughout this doc hoping to convince the reader that Mike Stroud is some kind of boogie man. Sorry, Bellamy, you said you know Mike. That was her discernment and no more should have been needed. John 4:18 teaches that perfect love casteth out fear. How can I do that in a paragraph and have it mean something? In a new Helps by Topic page, there is a link to False Revelation and Gospel Extremism. In that category, there are a couple scriptures, several talks by apostles, and even church history resources. Fear. I was at the meeting where Mike told the guy to not be afraid of deceit. He is also an adviser with the National Diversity Coalition for Trump. But when you weigh Mikes errors against those of his accusers with all their hypocrisy, fearmongering, deception and intimidation tactics there is really no comparison. So what exactly is the fruit of Mike Strouds podcasts? The pages in that book after my daughter was murdered helped my heart to forgive and let go and for that I am forever grateful for his words he shared. Did you testify that Jesus is the Christ to ones that dont know and that by the shedding of His blood your sins are forgiven.And that the shedding of the blood of Christ is in the covenant of the Father( moroni10:33).? BofM is true and thats good enough for to move forward. But I think Ive made my point. Christ also told us that by their fruits shall we know them. I pray for them. Im not sure how anything King Follett fits in one way or the other. Taking heed of deception is not being afraid of deception. They were both teaching of how to be wise about it. It started off as a lark but after getting a taste of the attention and the power it gave them, they developed an appetite for it. The more youre loved, the more youre hated. Brien is a super quick force as he lays very hard into Starling before he tags in Patrick who is all about force and power. . That means if you make a purchase from a link you click on, I might receive a small commission. Didnt Nephi say something about applying the scriptures? Podcast 05: Spending Sacred Holy Time With The Lord Jesus Christ, the frequency and abundance of messages from heaven have increased exponentially, She testified of how real and true the concept of modern revelation from the Lord to His prophet really is., Mike Stroud Has Been Excommunicated Latter-day Commentary Last Days Signs of the Times, End-Times Visionary Julie Rowe Excommunicated Wheat & Tares, Jana Riess: Chad Daybells strange end times beliefs are not Mormon theology, says historian .U.S.A.-News. That is the reality of who we are and that everyone needs to wake up to to establish Zion. And it the eyes of some, they may very well have pulled it off. I believe thats why the Lord wanted these podcasts to be done (Podcast 08: 1 Nephi 5-7, abt 41:23). That broadens my understanding. .. I have several friends who have been exec for apostasy and they still dont understand exactly what they were accused of.I will say that this ireminds me of Josephs complaint about the early Saints who were fond of setting up stakes and who would fly to pieces like a price of glass if he tried to teach them anything contrary to their traditions.Alma 13 tells us what happens to people who refuse to accept the opportunity to learn what God offers them. What mightve gotten him in trouble this time? More frequently, I have witnessed a few somewhat mentally fragile or mentally ill members take nose dives into fanaticism because of teachings in General Conference or from a quote in a lesson manual. Are there saints among them? Judging a mans personal revelation to me is fruitless nonsense. Each person decides which is more important; having the good or avoiding the bad. Michael is the the author of three books, A Remnant Shall Return, Daniel 11, and Revelation - The Vision of John the Divine. At The Disco's frontman on being the only original member left", "Out to Win: Panic! This may all blow over soon which would be nice. No one would feel lesser because God has blessed one person in certain ways that he has not blessed them. I also enjoy hearing of other members spiritual experiences and sharing what has helped them grow and learn. I like Rush in the general sense and have found some some of his views even helpful, but I disagree with him on a number of particulars. If they testify to the reality of the spiritual world and that the gifts of the spirit may be enjoyed in this life they get the modern equivalent of being burned at the Stake. Thank you, Kimberly. Rush is the author of A Remnant Shall Return, Daniel 11, and Revelation the Vision of John the Divine. He completely ignored the context of Isaiah calling out church pride in the latter days and government corruption. Plain and simple good judgement will reveal the truth of things. Apostasy, Excommunication, LDS, Mormon, Mormon Discussion. Fund Franchise michael b rush excommunicated. Did you think to ask Father in heaven to forgive you of your sin in the name of Jesus Christ? Other false teachers like Snuffer wrote their own material. Excommunication. Copyright LastDaysTimeline.comAll Rights Reserved. I believe that when a person gets to a certain spiritual level, they can have direct communication with these beings by way of the Holy Ghost giving permission and instruction on how to do it. The grandparents shared a pie with some local American Indian friends, and they were later given a crude type of pie in return. In the talk the author quoted by M. Russell Ballard Beware of False Prophets and False teachers not a single time did Elder Ballard ever say that we should be afraid of deception. Benson or whoever stated the proverbial straw that broke the marriages backs. Were it up to me I would leave some roles unfilled rather than put uninspired, unworthy persons in there. Such are the fruits of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, and as such, will ensure that we remain separated from Him and from each other. As I have looked at the Ezra's Eagle prophecy from the apocrypha directly, I have noted many additional insights in The Last Days Timeline as I pondered Ezra's Eagle steadily for 5 weeks. Thank you, Rush, for all you have done for this nation. I am a better disciple of Christ, and I have grown closer to him. Visit Author Central to update your books, profile picture, and biography. Sandra Dawn Brimhall and Dawn Retta Brimhall. [A]t this point in time, in the day of the gathering of Israel, there has never been a more appropriate time for us to obtain the power and knowledge, wisdom and understanding from the Book of Mormon through revelation and angelic ministry than right now. Heres the fact. 9 reviews 2018 Edition - Includes Section Seven - World's Without End. by mes5464 August 20th, 2021, 8:57 am, Post Its as if the messages lead to a circle of patting each other on the back for learning the mysteries rather than helping the suffering widow down the street. Now, the church excommunicates someone who teaches that these stories are to be applied to us, each of us, equals, loved equally?. Michael B. That is what made Mike Stroud one of the most dangerous False teachers in the church. 26 Specifically: an institution who makes such extraordinary claims about personal revelations would then regulate such claims.. Michael Mansour Rush, 69. This is the official page for Michael B. We cannot develop faith if we have fear. Fear of being deceived effectively stops you. I testify that Christ has not judged ANYONE involved, nor will he. And trust and hope wanes., Indeed they do, it does. Bellamy, one of the reasons that I said maybe not for the reason you think in the headline is because I dont think he was excommunicated merely for teaching about calling and election, second comforter, or seeing angels. For example, President Nelson counseled in April, I urge you to stretch beyond your current spiritual ability to receive personal revelation, for the Lord has promised that if thou shalt [seek], thou shalt receive revelation upon revelation, knowledge upon knowledge, that thou mayest know the mysteries and peaceable thingsthat which bringeth joy, that which bringeth life eternal.12, Oh, there is so much more that your Father in Heaven wants you to know. I cant even wrap my head how he spun the unvaccinated into the covenant if death. 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