. Nobody would win, not even TV. Manly Sea Eagles and North Sydney Bears must merge into a 'behemoth' club, says Brad Fittler, Cameron Smith reveals the 'difficulty' of not having a consistent halfback for the 2018 season. Yep: the grand old North Sydney Bears. This is one of those things that wont happen but I do wonder what the future holds for Manly. We used to cry when the Bears won a game! Guttural laughter from my uncles. The North Sydney Bears is an Australian rugby league football club based in North Sydney, New South Wales. Cheaper and easier than focus groups. Rebranded as Norths, the North Sydney Leagues Club was established by the district's football club, the North Sydney Bears, in 1955 in a house in the Sydney suburb of Neutral Bay. See www.dailytelegraph.com.au/subscriptionterms for full details. You are using an out of date browser. With the score 12-8 in favour of Newcastle with less than 10 minutes to play Jason Taylor set up Michael Buettner for a try which made the score 12-12. Supporters of grass roots Rugby League. They would allocate between four and six games at a potentially upgraded North Sydney Oval. Cronulla has 220,000. [3], North Sydney was formed as a foundation club of the newly arrived rugby league game in 1908 and were initially known as the Shoremen. There are so many players play up there, so you can get the best kids aspiring to play for the Central Coast". The Northern Eagles shared their home games between Brookvale Oval in Sydney and Grahame Park in Gosford. Don't need to have surfed the Long Reef bommie to back the maroon and white. Register a free account today to become a member of the world's largest Rugby League discussion forum! In 1991 North Sydney finished the regular season in 3rd place and defeated local rivals Manly in the first week of the finals. The North Sydney Bears would be back and there would be, give us your best Rabbits Warren, deadset jubilation. The only comments appearing to temper matters are those from Dickson himself. Bears are now officially the feeder club for the Roosters for the next 5 years starting 2019. And they dont have a footy team to call their own. Weve been burnt before, but were still here, and still hoping. [15], The following year saw two separate national rugby league championships, and confirmation of the club's intention to move north to New South Wales' Central Coast. During that time, North Sydney produced arguably the greatest winger the game has ever seen in Ken Irvine. Select the subscription offer youd like to buy, click Subscribe with Google, and you will be directed to complete your purchase using your Google account. Fish where the fish are, is something my old man would say and he didnt even like fishing. Its why they invest in a footy team with themselves, with emotion, with money. If Brookie is not up to NRL standard, why does the NRL allow them to play there? Policy played out in the court of public opinion; its how we roll in the twenties. Madness, of course. If thats the marker, then the ARLC suited bean-counters should do this. Follow the Bears. North Sydney placed a $7 million bid to take over the Titans last year but were overlooked for a multi-million plan from businessman Darren Kelly to keep the licence on the Gold Coast. Twice the Bears have adorned the back page of the West Australian, and ahead of Perths hosting of the State of Origin on Sunday, Bears chairman Daniel Dickson will be in the city to meet a West Australian government group to further explore the partnership. And he said the NRL told these guys not to use the media to play things out. But they would. For two wilderness-riven decades, Bears hopefuls have been scoffed at, cast as hopeless, foolish tragics, and blind to the realities of economic rationalism in the 21st century. And the Bears didnt get a licence when using the press is what they shouldve done along with all the other weapons in their armoury to shift public opinion to the Bears. A page that will not be. Get five per cent of Greater Northern Sydney to a North Sydney Bears game and thats 50,000 citizens. Singleton said We had the players and the lifestyle on the Central Coast once you get people up there they go: wow, how goods this. We are super excited to have a player of Todd Carneys calibre join the mighty North Sydney Bears". Consider: six hundred thousand people live from Kirribilli to Hornsby Heights, from the Roseville Bridge to north-west Ryde. The loss was evidently too much for me, and I began to cry. This decision comes on the back of that. Newcastle, and Andrew Johns, then 19, beat us at home. As of 2014, there have been several attempts for the Bears to come back into the NRL by being based at the Central Coast, North Sydney, Perth, Gold Coast and Brisbane. North Sydney is based on Sydney's Lower North Shore, and has played at North Sydney Oval since 1910. And if there were Bears people would invest in the Bears, consume the Bears, love the Bears. First it was the Gold Coast Bears. (Only applies if home delivery is included in your package), www.dailytelegraph.com.au/subscriptionterms, Subscriber-only newsletters straight to your inbox, Todays Paper, a digital replica of the newspaper, SuperCoach Plus for stats, analysis, tips and more, Saturday and Sunday paper delivery* (Not available in all areas). The path appears to be clearing to bring back the grand old club. Each payment, once made, is non-refundable, subject to law. And today theres 600,000 people from Kirribilli to Mt Colah who dont have a rugby league team, and another 400,000 on the Central Coast. This was also Matt King's final game of Rugby League. However, no such sentiment appears to exist in Perth. Going with the Flo. And if you brought back the North Sydney Bears to represent these 600,000 people in the northern suburbs of Sydney and the 400,000 people of the Central Coast it would be an instant and irrevocable success. They were beaten 20-15 by Weller Hauraki, scoring a controversial try with just 13 seconds to go, which many believed should not have been allowed due to a forward pass. "'The 'Rabbitoh Way' is to build a culture that rewards young players for hard work, a culture that has respect for the club and its people, respects the members and sponsors that invest financially and emotionally into what we are doing here at South Sydney, and a culture of developing young players that want to play for South Sydney and that we see having a future NRL career". And have a massive march in March. Owned by both clubs and with equal represteantion on the board. And all those aforementioned Sydney fisheries have a team, while a one million-strong chunk of northern Sydney and its near north does not. But moot it they did, these people in suits, because television told them. [34] Dont worry mate, he consoled me, gently putting a fatherly arm around me as I tried to hide my flood of tears from my uncles. [49] The General Manager of Norths and most capped player of the club Greg Florimo said at the time of North Sydney's first public interest in purchasing The Gold Coast licence as "the last chance". If the NRL wants to expand it should look inside itself: And bring back the North Sydney Bears. Too right. Oops! Hes done the PhD, bought the T-shirt. Everyones sold a pup, a homeless hound that nobody owns. The news never got better for Bears fans. The rugby league greathas revived calls for the Sea Eagles to capitalise on the broader NSW north border and expand their fan base across North Sydney, the Northern Beaches and the Central Coast. Prices after the introductory pricing period may be varied as per full Terms and Conditions. 2012 saw North Sydney make the semi finals, missing out on the minor premiership by points differential to Canterbury-Bankstown. Whos fearful? with other sports fans, Please enter your credit or debit card details below. The Bears are not in agreement with anyone, Dickson told SENZ Breakfast Radio recently. Anywhere from the Harbour Bridge - take in the Central Coast - that would be such a powerful area and if they could come to some sense you could encapsulate Brookvale Oval, North Sydney Oval and Gosford and have a wonderful, strong club.. 13.3K followers. And so it was bye-bye Bears to purgatory. The Manly Warringah Sea Eagles name and colours returned to the NRL in 2003.[1][2]. And the Bears didn't get a license when using the press is what they shouldve done along with all the other weapons in their armoury to shift public opinion to the Bears. On 14 December 2017, it was officially announced by The NRL that the consortium of Darryl Kelly and self made property tycoon Rebecca Frizelle had won the bid to purchase The Gold Coast Titans. Manly's licence is redistributed to a WA or Bris2 franchise. The Bears have also been the only team to have participated in every season of reserve grade since the competition's inception in 1908. Full Digital Access + Weekend Paper Delivery $8 billed every 4 weeks for the first 12 weeks, then $36 billed every 4 weeks. Its never easy, is it? He recently told The Daily Telegraph: Wherever I go every third person asks me when are you bringing back the Bears?., Speaking specifically about the proposed 18th team in the NRL, Vlandys went on to say: One thing Ive learned in rugby league is that the Bears have an extremely popular brand. Politicians do the same thing with policy; leak a backbenchers brain-fart to the papers, see how it flies among the populace. And they would dinkum hang from the trees. Prices after the first 12 months may be varied as per full Terms and Conditions. With only seconds remaining Norths frantically threw the ball around and lost it, the ball was swooped up by Newcastle's Owen Craigie and he raced away to score a try and won the game. Allow up to 5 days for home delivery to commence. [16], In the 1997 season North Sydney again made the preliminary final against Newcastle at the Sydney Football Stadium. Ill do a Russell Crowe and bring them back Though daddy-money would be nice, Dickson says that should the Bears be green-lit for the 18th licence, the money is good. You must log in or register to reply here. Victory may be close, but the Bears do know how to make it hard. The Dragons have 260,000 (not counting the Illawarra). In September 2018, North Sydney announced that it had signed a 5-year deal to become the Sydney Roosters feeder club and reserve grade side with Taylor returning to the club as head coach. Carney spoke to the media saying "I had that option with the Bears but Souths have blocked that, I'm sure something will come up". Yeah the Northern Eagles were such a success. The Northern Eagles were a rugby league team that competed in the National Rugby League (NRL) between 2000 and 2002. Gold Coast? And the dominant partner eventually killed and ate their Siamese twin, and took the license for themselves, for they are nothing if not their own people. Bring Back The Bears! Only Parramatta (890,000) and Wests Tigers (690,000) have a larger catchment than North Sydney Bears would have. If you subscribe directly with us you will also get access to our News+ Network which is made up of some of our most popular news sites, like. Home Delivery is not available in all areas. Est 1908. We want to see it! There are three individual investors lined up, he says, Vlandys knows who they are, hes met them, and theyre ready to step up to the block. Hes a doctor of demographics. Towards the end of the war Norths' fortunes improved, playing quality and spectators numbers increased, and they won 2 premierships in 192122 coached by Chris McKivat. Twice the Bears have adorned the back page of the West Australian, and ahead of Perth's hosting of the State of Origin on Sunday, Bears chairman Daniel Dickson will be in the city to meet a. Full Digital Access 12 Month Plan costs $208 (min.cost) for the first 12 months, charged as $16 every 4 weeks. Perry suggested that the NRL should look at creating a promotion/relegation system similar to other sports around the world. Little success was had during three seasons (2000-2002), finishing 12th, 10th, and 9th, winning 30 of 76 games. JavaScript is disabled. Only Parramatta (890,000) and Wests Tigers (690,000) have a larger catchment than the Bears would have. Because: emotion, tribalism, and all that good, human stuff. And all those aforementioned Sydney fisheries have a team, while a one million-strong chunk of northern Sydney and its near north does not. At a private event some years ago, a former senior administrator in the NRL laughed in the face of a Bears official explicating the case for a return on the Central Coast in a ground the club built, underwritten by John Singleton, coached by Wayne Bennett. But if your subscription or membership includes home delivery, then you can request to suspend your paper delivery through My Account. With the scores locked at 12-12, Newcastle player Matthew Johns kicked a field goal with 2 minutes to play to make it 13-12. They love the club. The NRL Forecast: Year of the Rooster, new-look Tigers spin their wheels, Payten's reality check, The Roars NRL expert tips and predictions: Round 1. Matt has interviewed just about everyone in Australian sport, and has a massive Rolodex of Australian sports folk. Had another chat with a bloke involved in the Bears ill-fated bid for the Gold Coast licence. Bring Back The Bears. Donnelly was the voluntary administrator of the North Sydney Rugby League Club when financial difficulties forced it out of the NRL competition at the end of 1999. In 1964, the club moved to new premises, its current location, in Abbott Street, Cammeray. The Official North Sydney Bears. Greg Florimo has been the face of the Bears' efforts to get back into the NRL, and remains involved with the club. And Dr Fujaks research tells us this: Canterbury has 440,000 people in their catchment. A team they cant really own. Brad Fittler calls for Manly Sea Eagles and North Sydney Bears to merge and form a 'behemoth' club The Northern Eagles in 2000. Even more transparent, in a back-arsed sort of way. As Nick Politis said in the piece in The Tele Bears fans didnt go to Manly and they didnt cross the bridge and come to the Roosters. Article proves that ice is a scourge on Australian lives. Bring Back The Who? The Bears bid committee is lobbying the NRL for inclusion as the next expansion team. They went to the Swans and the Waratahs. If you wish to change or create a new subscription, please call 1800 070 535 Monday to Friday 7.30am 6.00pm & 7.00am-11.30am AEST on both Saturdays & Sundays. cost) every 4 weeks unless cancelled as per full Terms and Conditions. Maybe not instant. Earlier in the week, The Australian's. For full details, see our Terms and Conditions www.dailytelegraph.com.au/connectedterms. But theyd be into, the Northern Sydney Bear people, all six hundred thousand of em, or whatever percentage the NRL could plane off and declare allegiance, and consume the club and love it one way or many. This is the point where opponents will suggest that the partner should go it alone. A valid active email address and Australian mobile phone number are required for account set up. So bring em back, baby, and fill Percys Bar. Editor Matt Cleary is an award-winning sports writer, contributor to The Guardian, Inside Sport, Big League and Inside Rugby, among several dozen other journals. [54], On 11 November 2018, new North Sydney CEO David Perry said he was aiming at seeing a North Sydney/Central Coast bid come to fruition when the current television deal ends at the end of 2023. Policy played out in the court of public opinion; its how we roll in the twenties. The club was established in 1908, making it one of the original founding members of the New South Wales Rugby Football League, and one of Australia's first rugby league football clubs. Please check your email to receive the magic link. The Sydney Roosters revealed that they would be fielding their own team in the NSW Cup for 2023 and would still provide some contracted players to North Sydney as part of the agreement. Like Illawarra got the socks in their merger and the Magpies got Campbelltown occasionally, the Bears got shafted in their merger. However! Then it was the Western. But like said abominable Northern Eagles, they would be horrible. Relocation disenchants and disenfranchise existing fans, while new ones get a sort of half-arsed mob from somewhere else. Subscribe with Google lets you purchase a subscription, using your Google account. Its more than watch footy in the catchments serving Roosters, Rabbitohs, Dragons, Sharks, Sea Eagles and Bulldogs. He was introducing me to the dry, gallows humour that accompanied any seasoned observer of the Bears. I can live on the beach". And they didnt. Speaking . And youd only need one in 20 of these people to buy a jumper, go to a game, whack a sticker on the back of their Pajero and boom, theyve brought back the North Sydney Bears. Hard-nosed? Mergers mean dogs and cats living together in unholy matrimony. On 8 November 2022, the Sydney Roosters announced that they would be ending their partnership deal with North Sydney at the end of the 2023 season. Theres still people holding a candle for the Newtown Jets, though not enough that the Jets arent destined to forever be a reserve grade feeder out of Henson Park. However this was turned around in the 2011 season with the North Sydney side reaching the preliminary final and losing to eventual premiers the Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs. South Sydney who have a partnership with Norths were not happy with this decision and declared that there would be no NRL pathway for Carney and declared that they might withdraw their relationship with Norths as a result. Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox! On 21 May 2018, Carney officially signed with North Sydney, in reaction to the signing, General Manager of football at Souths Shane Richardson said "We've spoken to Norths about Todd Carney and it's our position that we will develop our young halves, as opposed to bringing in a player from outside the club in this instance," Richardson said. They are headed up by Perry Lopez and Greg Florimo and has the corporate backing of a number of local Central Coast and some North Shore businesses. In 2014 facilities comprised two dining areas, function rooms, a 530-seat auditorium, a fitness and wellness centre, indoor and outdoor lounge areas, a bottle shop, a TAB, two squash courts, a courtesy bus service, a members rewards program and a multi-level car park for 320 vehicles. They were eliminated by Balmain in a playoff for 5th place. Heart and soul of the North Sydney Bears Greg Florimo has weighed in on the proposal to re-merge Manly and the Bears. [36], In 2020, due to the Covid-19 pandemic, the Canterbury Cup NSW, Ron Massey Cup and Sydney Shield competitions were cancelled. On October 27, 2021, the Bears revealed their intention to return to the NRL, coinciding with a new logo. This was the third consecutive season that the North Sydney side had been eliminated in the finals by the team which would eventually win the premiership. People follow footy teams largely because the team represents them, their patch, their people. It could take up to 5 business days before your first paper delivery arrives. Hes done the PhD, bought the T-shirt. This automatically renews to be charged as $16 (min. The Northern Pride who Carney was contracted with demanded that Norths pay the fee which the club refused to do and hoped that a deal could be met between Carney's management team and The Queensland Cup side before the 30 June transfer window closed. It would be 17 years before North Sydney made the finals series again when they finished 3rd in the 1982 season. [29][30] They have to be from somewhere, represent some patch. Same-same. Also, the new club's decision to play games in Gosford instead of the Bears home ground at North Sydney Oval alienated several North Sydney fans, despite North Sydney's planned move to the new Central Coast Stadium, which had been rebuilt for the Bears on the site of the old Grahame Park ground. See www.dailytelegraph.com.au/subscriptionterms for full details. The merged club lasted only until 2002 when it split again, with the Bears not returning to first grade and being represented in the NSWRL competition, the second-tier rugby league competition, where the Bears continue to play today. Bring Back The Bears! In the next match North Sydney had the chance to make their first grand final in 48 years if they could defeat Penrith in the semi-final. Bring back the bears, throw manly under a bus. Because: emotion, tribalism, and all that good, human stuff. [13] That year they came within one match of the grand final but lost to Canberra. But Jeez thats two million eyeballs. [6], The team became known as the North Sydney Bears during the 1950s after accepting a sponsorship from the nearby Big Bear supermarket at Neutral Bay. The North Sydney Bears would be back and there would be, give us your best Rabbits Warren, deadset jubilation. But only like the two Koreas. Perth team? So far they have failed to gain a licence to re-enter the NRL with the latest push of buying the Manly Sea Eagles licence from Penn Sports for $6,000,000 after a failed attempt by Qatar to buy Manly for $22,000,000 a week earlier. Norths won the game 28-18.[21]. It's just sad that the owner of the Roosters doesn't realise they are a drain on the NRL and don't pull crowds. I cant see any government wanting to throw any money towards that shit hole especially with how small their supporter base is. On 3 November 2017, it was revealed that Norths had failed in their bid to purchase The Gold Coast licence. But Jeez that's two million eyeballs. Each payment, once made, is non-refundable, subject to law. [4] Many good players such as Andy Morton, Jimmy Devereaux and Sid Deane were lost to English clubs in the years after making the semi-finals in the season of 1908. Thats a lotta eyeballs. [19], By the start of the 1999 NRL season the future looked bright with plans for the move north well underway, but one unfortunate and apparently non-negotiable outcome of the Super League war's peace deal was a criterion designed to reduce the number of teams in the NRL to fourteen. Nobody would win, not even TV. "They want to buy everyone. The club was formed during the rationalisation process of the NRL by the merger of the Manly Warringah Sea Eagles and the North Sydney Bears in 2000. Big question would be do you brand the new merged club as one, both or neither of the two co-owners? Dont need to have surfed the Long Reef bommie to back the maroon and white. So bring em back, baby, and fill Percys Bar. Copyright 2023 Sporting News Holdings Limited. Knock On Effect NSW Cup Draw; Harvey Norman Women's Premiership. MORE:Cameron Smith reveals the 'difficulty' of not having a consistent halfback for the 2018 season. North Sydney were coached that year by the great Ron Willey. Commercial viability. Maybe not jubilation. And yes if I was going to merge clubs I would support a new brand over a 'merged' brand, as merging the brands just leads to problems and infighting, so yeah instead of the new club being called the North Sydney Sea Eagles and playing in red and black, they'd have a completely new brand and be (e.g.) [60] In 2018 theyd explored the possibility of establishing a Western Bears franchise based in Perth.[61]. And it would be magnificent. As Lane Cove was in North Sydney's district, the club protested to the NSWRFL and claimed Hyde from Balmain. And if you brought back the North Sydney Bears to represent these 600,000 people in the northern suburbs of Sydney - and the 400,000 people of the Central Coast - it would be an instant and irrevocable success. Payment will be charged to your Google Account. And there are lots and lots and lots of eyeballs. [50], Throughout 2017 there was much media speculation around North Sydney and their moves to purchase the struggling Gold Coast Titans licence when it went on sale by The NRL. Theres still people holding a candle for the Newtown Jets, though not enough that the Jets arent destined to forever be a reserve grade feeder out of Henson Park. Now that youve found Todays Tale why not join in on Consider these northern beaches. A reconvened AFL presidents' meeting endorses the AFL commission's recommendation of a Brisbane Bears-Fitzroy merger. The Dolphins losing the Redcliffe bit is madness. After this, the Northern Eagles' licence then reverted to the Manly-Warringah Sea Eagles, leaving the foundation club out of the top flight of rugby league in Australia after more than 90 years. To be a part, even if its a minor part, of a northern Sydney nrl club or remain a nswrl leagues club suburban entity? [35], North Sydney would go on to lose both finals matches against South Sydney and Newtown. You already have a current subscription with us. When Souths were kicked out, mates of mine followed Randwick. Newcastle, and Andrew Johns, then 19, beat us at home. The club initially struggled to obtain access to North Sydney Oval, but council obstruction was removed and the Shoremen played their first real home game in 1910. JavaScript is disabled. The club competes in the New South Wales Cup, having exited the National Rugby League following the 1999 NRL season after 90 years in the premier rugby league competition in Australia. 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